On the Ground, Granny
Posted by TFG on November 21st, 2006
Wow. Just fucking wow. Just “You have got to be fucking kidding me” WOW.
Watch your Dallas SWAT in action over here at the “exclusive” CBS11. What a load of horseshit. Especially compare the nice grandmas and skinny chicks and quaking Gen-Ys at the beginning of the video with the jackass cops executing a dangerous arrest where “you can never be too cautious.” That’s pure fucking Jack Webb over-dramatization for the goddamned teevee cameras, and it burns my ass beyond belief that they know it while they sit there regurgitating it for the drones sitting at home watching their jr. high antics.
Someone tell me how I can save this damn video. I don’t want it getting away. Someone needs to fucking answer for this bully-boy bullshit. I also want to know how a goddamned teevee station gets an exclusive heads-up…if they’re so goddamned dangerous, how can you put the precious talking heads in the line of fire? It’s horseshit, that’s how…political ball-licking glory-hounds. Fucking politicians.
Via DanM…who has pictures of the damage done with your tax dollars by our highly-trained Special Weapons Assault Team. Special. Weapons. Assault. Team. Tough guys. Bad mofos. For people playing fucking cards. I used to back the blue…before they turned into teevee stars. I think I’ll take care of me and my own from here on out, thanks…don’t need no Hollywood cocksuckers paying for their version of my law and order.
All apologies for the language, but I’m fucking apopleptic about this bullshit. Funny what sets you off, isn’t it?
November 21st, 2006 at 7:50 am
The video is delivered using javascript and Flash, which I’m no good at. So, sorry, I tried.
This does look like bullshit and overkill. Whatever happened to “one riot, one Ranger?” We’ve replaced that with “someone might get hurt.”
November 21st, 2006 at 12:14 pm
That’s a CBS system, not a local thing, so the security is such that even my magic embedded video saver won’t touch it.
I’m putting a call in to the reporter, though…
November 21st, 2006 at 6:40 pm
Hell, I had enough when it became impossible to tell the difference between a SWAT team and an armed burglery. It only became worse when I actually watched a Dallas SWAT show, they performed six raids, and arrested zero (0) (FUCKING ZERO) criminals.
November 23rd, 2006 at 1:04 am
…Kinda hurtin’ my feelings… I’m not adverse to gambling by any means. I hope the law will change.
One must take note, however, in larger operations, the involvement of organized crime. Big guns & desperate men….
Whether or not these Officers agreed with raiding these places (most would have rather raided the domiciles of shitbags, I gaurantee), they had to do what was required of them. I’m very sorry if the readers think Officers should forsake their safety. For the most part, we like going home at the end of our tours of duty, rather than the ER or morgue…please pardon us for that. We’re still working with Harvard and NASA on clairvoyance and ESP, so that we can determine up front, if we will meet deadly resistance….please be patient with us until this comes to fruition…
Thanks, KD
SWAT 1986-1993
November 23rd, 2006 at 9:01 am
I’m glad you chimed in here, KD. My beef is not with the officers performing the raid, per se…it’s with their leaders who make the call to pull the trigger on a SWAT raid, and the decision chain that leads to that choice, most especially in these cases. Because, no two ways about it, it looks like overkill, and worse, it looks lazy. Like DPD is too lackadaisical to do a proper investigation and shut down the place through what I would consider ordinary police procedures that wouldn’t endanger a single one of our fine officers. Such as, gathering evidence and arresting the guilty parties individually.
Never mind the glory hound aspect of doling out ‘exclusives’ to the teevee mediots. I seriously doubt you would consider that good police work. I hope you don’t.
PS Clairvoyance, and lack thereof, works two ways — busting through doors and windows is NOT safe, for either the buster or the bustee. It’s why citizens like me carry firearms and teach ourselves to shoot, in the event that we wind up in a violent confrontration. We want to go home at the end of our tour, too.
November 24th, 2006 at 1:30 am
…Duly noted.. I don’t think we would have called up Tactical for a gambling violation….matter of fact, the last two were purely Patrol & Investigations ops. The response had more to do with ongoing aggraveted assaults, disturbances & shots fired at the establishment, than the card games…
However, (thank you for your objective response), be not too quick to judge…we don’t know the intel considered before certain decisions were made, and we never will, lest someone pleads “not guilty” & we sit in on the trial..
….if the cops come in….just do what they tell you… I unedrstand breaking glass & spintering door frames are frightening occurances. If it happens at your house – that’s one thing….if it happens elsewhere, you better ID your target as bad, before you yank a 1911 outta that spider rig….
Respectfully, KD
November 24th, 2006 at 8:19 am
be not too quick to judge…we don’t know the intel considered before certain decisions were made, and we never will
And that’s the problem. I do know the other side that the alleged intel is focused on. Hell, I am one. The players certainly aren’t worthy of SWAT (Class C midsdemeanors???). The house, or room, isn’t either, at least none I’ve ever been in, and I’ve been in a few. These people are not threatening public safety, at least how I define it in my old-fashioned way. The end result is that the game (and there will always be a game-there was one on Skillman for decades) is driven further underground, where public safety, by the standards of TFG, is far more likely to be put in jeopardy.
But then the latest political PR campaign has worked. I won’t play in Dallas any more, and probably not even in Dallas Co. if I can avoid it. I’ll go to Collin, Tarrant, Kaufmann, etc. And the continued pussification and politicization of this once-great city can barrel on down the tracks unimpeded by me.
November 25th, 2006 at 12:35 am
TFG…there were some obvious ongoing clusterfarps at these locations…lest they would have not attracted Police scrutiny. I’ll not further guess at the probable cause.
Ultimate show of force solely for the cameras is contemptable. SWAT WARRIORS much prefer bad guys who might fight back. Bad guys will go down. Don’t they ever watch “COP’s”? It never ceases to amaze me.
If I’d Been in charge, we would have acomplished the mission….SWAT or no SWAT,….probably no SWAT (yes, I’ve been in charge of such desicions)….I don’t know what they knew…better safe than sorry…
Take a look at what is going on around you…..check out the news…we don’t know what we are rushing in to….this suburb is a hellhole compared to what I patrolled in 1982.
November 25th, 2006 at 1:03 am
obvious ongoing clusterfarps They were playing poker.
the probable cause They were playing poker.
I’ll say again…I believe that these take-downs are nothing but politically-motivated bullcrap. I will believe that until I hear or see something different from what I’ve seen so far, which is naught but what the coppers decide to show me. These are people I know, these are places I’ve played, and I know there are no contretemps that even approach the random Deep Ellum club on a Thursday night, much less Saturday night. There is nothing that would invoke a SWAT team action…zip, zero, nada.
Like I say, I don’t care any more. Dallas PD wants to run their city this way, then I’m out of here. It’s not the city I grew up in, and it’s not a place I want to be. They want to spend their time and my tax money on card players, that’s their choice. I didn’t choose it. But I don’t have to keep contributing, so I won’t. It’s the only vote I have when you think about it. I’m lucky because I have a choice, and I can assure you that I’m going to recommend everyone else that I know is aware of that choice.
November 25th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
….it’s not the PD…..per se… delve upwards…
Something else to consider, from the perspective of a bullet magnet…Would I want to go dynamic by myself….or have ample assurance behind me??? …uummm…let me think about this a secondBACKUP!
If you’ve had the dubious honor of rolling around on the street, fighting for your life in the middle of the night, you might appreciate the mindset of Officer Survival. Very sorry if precautions exceeding the unknown were taken.
Always vote your conscience. Assigned an unknown task, Officers will always vote “better safe than dead”. Yesterday, a 80+ year old granny in a crackhouse opened fire on Officers ….sorry, Granny…if we’d ‘a known beforehand…things woulda’ turned out different…..Lew Sterrett food ain’t that bad….
KD
November 26th, 2006 at 12:00 am
….still badgering NASA & Harvard about that ESP/clairvoyance thingy…
November 26th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
I thought you were guilty of hyperbole. Then I watched the video. Someone thinks he’s Eliot Ness busting up some bootlegger’s speakeasy from the 1920’s. Completely ridiculous and very silly. Can’t wait for saturated fats to become illegal and we can watch exclusive video of the police smashing up MacDonald’s. “Put down the spatula and step away from the deep fryer.”
I just finished reading One Ranger by Joaquin Jackson. I can imagine what he’d say. Probably pose a sarcastic question asking where the teargas and armored cars were.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:20 pm
I actually agree with KD. It is like my arguments on Less Than Lethal weapons — the problem isn’t the police, it is the policy that places it so low on the continuum of force and makes electronic torture department policy. Because we have allowed our system to place such an emphasis on killing people before they may or may not kill themselves with drugs, we have built up a military force inside our own borders that would cause any of the founders to shoot a fountain of blood out his ass as soon as he heard a hint of what we do.
Because of the War on (Some) Drugs and the emphasis on revenue generation, we have told our police, “We want you to go and risk your life to keep people from enjoying themselves, and when you aren’t doing that, risk your life to collect taxes.” And slowly but surely, it is eroding my respect for police themselves. I try to seperate the policy from the people who put up with it because they want to do a greater good, but it is hard. And it gets harder every. Single. Day.